liking politicz whie being scene e_e

xXToasted_TreasureXx 3/22/2022 06:11 pm 1123

Ok so,,,,, I LOVE politics!!!! itz my special interest rn and i rlly luv sharing meh political views while learning abt otherz!!!! but guess. wat.... all my friendz r emo/e-kidz!!!!!!! and guess what.... THOSE MOTHAFLUFFAHS ACT LIKE THEIR ALLGERGIC TO POLITICZ!!!5148b8c88eedd_cry.gif and i just kinda naturally attract other alt kiddos but once i try talking abt meh special interest they stop talking 2 meh 20.gif( and somedays i want to meet other scene people AND want them to not hate me for liking polticz!!! i get it if ur a centrist and dont like politics but i SWEAR i cannot bring up my special interest with any of my friends and its literally killing meh5148b8c8996e8_sick.gif!!! why r politicz so frowned apon in the alt community5148b8c8a7991_confused.gif?? (im left-wing btw)

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Mar 22, 2022 6:48 pm

i think being aware of politics is actually a good thing and being apolitical is def a privilege when things dont affect you. im not really sure why they dislike it though, bc my whole friend group is alt of a sort but we are heavily aware of politics. i hope you find people to talk to!

Mar 22, 2022 6:55 pm

politics definitely aren't frowned upon in the alternative community? the alt community offline esp older people is very left and vocal about it (punks in particular for obvious reasons). perhaps you need to broaden your horizons?

Mar 22, 2022 7:10 pm

@WATERPARKS: Hmm.. maybe!!! i am talkin abt my irl friendz tho!!! i'll try to hang out with people outside of my comfort zone tho!!!

Mar 22, 2022 7:10 pm

umm politics is a huge focus of a lot of the alt community except like online and stuff. Like a lot of the alt subcultures were created as a political statement, Punk is the most obvious but also like kinderwhore. You also can't be alternative if you are , homophobic, racist, ablest, or support an oppressive system in any way whatsoever, period, no exceptions. I know you don't have to make it your whole thing but there is no way you can be alt and completely avoid politics, you have to be at least a little politicly aware otherwise you're probably a poser. I hate the way poser is used is casual situations but actively avoiding politics is directly opposing what it means to be alternative.

Mar 22, 2022 7:16 pm

everytime i try and talk politics w someone they fr shut me down and argue w me rather than actually trying to listin to me and i listen to them yk?

Mar 22, 2022 7:32 pm

@Mush_bRainz: idkkkk myan?? i feel like alot of alt subcultures are defa not abt political stuff. Though i see your point with a good majority is rooted in some sort of political statement. Again this is prolly just a problem i'm personally having and just kinda how lyfe turned out 4 meh XD!!! I feel like alot of people were more attracted to to fashion and culture of certain styles rather than the message which sux... like alot.... especially if its a huge part of the whole thing i.e. punk. Also i feel like you can most definatly be Homophobic, rasicist, ect, but you wont be welcome in this community and i honestly dont know why ya would wanna join since its filled to the brim with autistic gay kidz LOLcheer!!!!!! (including me XD)!!!! I should mention im in midwest middle skool and only surrounded by Conservitve american politic enjoyers and goth/e-kids who dont care abt politics at all. =w= i DO need to broaden who i talk to tho in hopes i find a left-wing politic enjoyer cool

Mar 22, 2022 7:52 pm

@xXToasted_treasureXx: I live in the midwest too don't worry

but the point of being alternative, one of the reason the scene started in the first place was to give a collective fuck you to society and its standards. Being alternative is rooted in politics its just that with the internet in the mix now you have a bunch of kids who try and be part of the scene for the fashion and the fashion is the least important part. It is about the politics and the music and the cloths are optional. It is a well known fact that if you support the oppressions of anyone in any way YOU CAN NOT BE ALT, you can claim to be, you can dress like it, you can love the music, but you can't be alt at all in any way shape or form if you support any kind of oppressions. That is the whole point. I'm sorry that your view of it has been tainted but politics is the basis of the alternative community

sorry thats kind of a lot but I enjoy arguing

Mar 22, 2022 7:59 pm

really sorry bro, im one of those people. i just hate politics and how complicated it is, i dont like getting mixed up in that sort of controversy. i do have political views that align with the alt community because i want people to be nice to each other, but i dont like sharing that or talking about it. confusion is the main reason i avoid it, theres way too many specifics and views for me to comprehend

Mar 22, 2022 8:19 pm

@Mush_bRainz: No its fine i like arguing 2!! i think we are most likely going to disagree anyways because i got into scene culture through music and nostalgia!!! though yes i 100% being scene is a big fluff u to the norm. I disagree on the part that people are not alt if they dont part take in the political aspect. I feel like being alt is just part-taking in a culture that isnt basic shitttt y'know?? I DO agree on the fact that a big part of the alt community is just "hey we can dress how we want, not how ya want us to". They can support oppressive shit and still be called alt but its very contradictory to the whole reason the alt stuff exploded in the first place. You don't need to be a certain way to call yourself alt tho, You just do it and its fine. I do hope people in the alternitive community do have opinions on that kind of stuff but not all of them have to. does that make sense?? please tell me if im not making sense, im tired lol XD les just agree to disagree because we both have very different opinons on what being alt even is lol cheer hope ya have a gud night and im going to bedzo!!

TLDR; Being alt isnt abt ur opinons, its the fact that you aren't part of a socialtal norm, which can be linked back to its anarchist uprooting but you can agree with that sentiment for one thing but not another (agreeing with that statement for example, way of speaking but NOT for how we should run things). Not saying thats a gud way of thinking but you can and still be alt imo

Mar 22, 2022 8:32 pm

@xXToasted_treasureXx: fine agree to disagree lol but I would like to clerafy that I didn't mean you have to be activly invested in politics to be alternative but activly avoiding them betrays the meaning of the scene.