hahahahaha men. (rant)

natluvscats688 2/21/2022 10:18 am 1824

so this kid in my spanish class thinks its funny to randomly yell out that hes non-binary as a joke

some kids laugh, some kids look at him funny, and others look at me and laugh bc im trans...

istg i cannot stand this class. spanish is so easy for me and i enjoy the work, and learning a (well not new to me, ive been learning spanish since i was a little kid, my mom's latina and before she left she did one useful thing) language. But these people man... i cant anymore istg

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Feb 22, 2022 5:51 am

shockdude I took a spanish class for 4 months. Worst 4 months of my life. So many annoying homophobic boys. The teacher was also like a really cringe old man chad who would usually laugh at these jokes.

Feb 23, 2022 4:34 pm

@Lord_Cookie: TW SA

first off I never said they can't bc they're stupid I said it bc they literally don't have the privilege too, yes men deal with sexism but has it ever stopped them from voting? From reading? From having a job? From getting equal pay? From having bodily autonomy? How come you only mention the sexism men deal with when I'm trying to point out how something that was said can be invalidating to women? Like oh you were r@p3d by a man but don't worry not all men are assholes, like no they aren't but I'm still going to be afraid of men my whole entire life. Also as an autistic woman I littlerally cannot differenceate, so no not all women can. After being followed home, being assaulted, catcalled, harassed and more BY MEN I'm not going to trust men, I'm not going to like men automatically, there are so many other women out there like me, also I don't think men are dealing with literal femicide RIGHT NOW as we speak, I can send you some links and resources if you would like me too. I never once said all men are bad I said women don't have the privilege to experience that in life. I was trying to explain that what was said can be extremely invalidating and harmful I said COULD BE not that it inherently was, I think you may have misunderstood my point.

Edit: going off of Connie's point in there are bad people of all genders, yes I obviously know that but I've never been followed home, catcalled, invalidated and more by a woman never once in my life, statistics also show that men do all of those things more than women, I again can link sources and statistics

Feb 23, 2022 4:59 pm

@Moon9: not really my place and this may be unrelated but even tho im a pre-op pre-t trans man, ive had the same done to me. I dont think most men even discriminate against who they harass anymore..

  • CoNN13Killz
Feb 23, 2022 5:02 pm

@Moon9: ive also been abused by men and i think that women have to deal with a lot of bull shit and it may b hard 2 tell who is bad and who is not but woman also do abuse too and men never get heard when they get abused and i know this from experience and also my own mother violated me and i know at three woman who have abused my friends because they have no 1 to go 2 and those woman knew that and they knew they could pin it on my friends w ease they even blackmailed them w it

Feb 23, 2022 5:02 pm
@KandiCrunch: dudeeee

atleast my teacher reprimands the kids in my class.

she uses the name i prefer in school, and she compliments my work a lot because well, i know what im doing and i do it well, and i catch on pretty quickly. She still uses fem pronouns/terms (especially in spanish because there arent a lot of common terms that r gender-neutral in spanish. i mean hell almost all nouns are either fem or masc)

  • CoNN13Killz
Feb 23, 2022 5:08 pm

@urloverboy: aw that is so nice of her there r not enough teachers like that

Feb 23, 2022 5:12 pm

@urloverboy: abt the carson name LMAO one of my main ocs name is carson n his older sisters name is carly

Feb 23, 2022 5:13 pm

@urloverboy: yes I understand but trans women don't just get these things they also get k!113d on top of that misogyny runs rampid in our society I never said it doesn't happen to men I'm just trying to explain I'm not trying to see invalidating but that is simply incorrect men harass women (especially trans women) far more than anyone

Feb 23, 2022 5:17 pm

@CoNN13Killz: please remember that in the beginning of this conversation I said it isn't just women, but how would you feel if I in response to you sharing your trauma said "oh but not all women are like that we all don't do that" you would probably feel invalidated and I actually also have been abused and violated by women but what men did to me was far more horrific and men harass me 100000000x more than woman ever have and by calling out possibly invalidating things that were said it helps men in the long run, when men post about their sa all I see is kind and reassuring comments (mostly from women) but when women do the same thing all I see are men saying "liar" "not true" "you were asking for it" ect. Men don't get "held accountable" for their clothing choices in the discussion of assault, litteral stats show 1 in every 7 women and 1 in every 72 men it's a literal statistic. Look I'm sincerely sorry if I upset or irritated you, I was genuinely just trying to explain how what you said could be hurtful, I not going to be able to change your mind, but genuinely please be careful in what you say on someone's post when their sharing a traumatic experience and are being emotionaly vaunrable, it could be taken the wrong way, we obviously misunderstood eachother and I'm sorry if I came off the wrong way, I am not however sorry for the point I made, I hope you can think about and consider my point of view.

Feb 23, 2022 6:15 pm

@CoNN13Killz and @Moon9 @Moon9 (I put ur user twice cause idk how links work and I hope one of them notifies you), something that happens often is {Group A} only ever talking about their experiences when {Group B} is trying to open up about their experiences. Ex: women saying "I was harassed" and a man saying "well men get harassed too". Both things are true and both things should absolutely be talked about, but they should be talked about separately so that they both get the attention they deserve. I feel like the situation I described kind of happened here? Yes women absolutely do horrible things, but this forum is meant to be a safe space for the original poster to talk about their poor experience with a man, and maybe have a few people comfort them or help them out in other ways. I wanna be clear I'm not saying this to be mean, I think it's honestly something important to think about. Separate chats about different but equally important topics are necessary, and it's important to listen to each other. Remember PLUR peace