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there's a bunch of carrds n google docs listing w proof of everything the members have done (dont have links at the moment sry, some of them r posted in older anti-dsmp threads on here) even though some members that havent said/done bad things, like (last time i checked) ranboo n skeppy, they still associate themselves w bad ppl?? so for the most part, thats still not the greatest

don't listen to ppl who r like "oh its just the fandom! juste the toxic stans" nah thats in every fandom ever, not just dream smp, the fandom isnt whats wrong w it (although u could argue that it partially is cuz theyre the ones fueling the members popularity n literal career) but its the actual smp members

dream himself is a trump supporter

@Valen_: even if they make an apology it doesnt make it ok

so from what i know / have heard, apparently some memberz of the dsmp have said offensive thingz, (i haven't seen it, but if i do, i can tell u) and also i feel like itz just the fandom that ruinz it.. itz very toxic and stuff, but even so all fandomz have toxic and gross ppl in them

@V4MP1RE_GUTZZ: it depends, if they genuinely show that they've changed and that they have become a better person then it's like,, okay? but if someone just apologizes but doesn't actually change, then its not. it honestly depends in my opitopn, of couse, you can think what you want :-)