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@rotten_meat: ohhhh i see! thats really interesting. ufff yeah the "who's oppressed more" fucks with me hahah i even start thinking if im "not opressed enough" which... is just flat out stupid.

im all for going against discrimmination/racism its so stupid that people are bitches to black transwomen or just poc queer people in general???

ooo... i just may...

yeah i have to be honest i have stigma to some neogenders, many people make up some almost as if to mock the lgbtqia+ community so yeah... and so some feel fake to me

(im sorry i dont want to come off as too much of a dick-)

yeah no autism gender from a non-autistic person... *no sir* and even in general yeah... you gender identity isnt your mental illness! people are more than their mental illnesses!

gotcha xd

ohhh yeah ive watched sam collins i think react to blaire and just... ugh... no.. the stuff she says is blegh.

yeah people like that who say you need this certain amount/dsyphoria everywhere/want to kill yourself from dsyphoria make me feel so invald :/

i have mostly just social dysphoria, so i dont want to be perceived as "female" in social settings, that makes me eughh. but at home i more often chill with myself than not. and boobs are often associated with "female" so that means i can pretty often bind or wear baggy clothes to feel better. sometimes the feeling of them there makes me feel dysphoric, thats usually on "bad dysphoria days/bad days". but some days i dont mind them at all! i just chill. i also have a bit of voice dysphoria, working in retail and my voice going high to sound friendly annoys me so much :/

man i hate that internalized transphobia the trans community even has its sad..

thank you for all the info btw!!

-tea

@V4MP1RE_GUTZZ: yes sirrrrrr and I'll do it again :fuckboiemoji:

@tea: YES OF COURSE!!! Mogai is something that orginated on tumblr (or at the very least got popular on their) around 2015-2016 and get kinda sniped by transmeds in 2017-2018. Mogai was the truly all inclusive lgbt+, that was atleast their goal and it really did achieve that in my opinion. Mogais purpose was to fix some of the problems that the mainstream queer and trans community has. Things like the discrimination/racism of black gays and black trans women, the weirdly hate filled environment that the mainstream trans community had with non gender conforming and nonbinary individuals, the weird fight for "who's oppressed more" fight that was going around at the time, and the "who's valid" fight that also happened as a result of the last one. Of course a lot of people who felt ostracized by the greater lgbt+ community fled there and created their own thing. This resulted and a lot of super creative gender identities and flags Ect. Looking back at old tumblr posts, the community on the inside seemed pretty chill. Of course this was during the slow birthing of transmeds and that cause a super metric fuck ton of problems. This is a highly condensed version of Mogai, if you want something super in depth I reccommed looking up "What Is Mogai?" On YouTube (I rlly wish I could remeber the name of the creator" and a video around 30- an hour long should pop up!

I really like neo genders, again it's just a feeling and interpitation into a title, but there was some that seemed icky to me. Like autism gender- (this I can say confidently was a thing because someone identified with it, although be super careful when researching because people like to make fun of people who use alternative identities like this and pass it off like the actual community came up with it ex: ACAB/ACABS and George Floyd gender). I only didn't really like genders centered around a mental illness because it romanticizes it and is free for everyone to use so people who aren't autistic could say the phrase "my gender is autistic" and it fucks me up a bit. I like the animal based ones too, it really connects with me as someone who feels more connected to animals 90% of the time lol.

(Cw, mentions of Kalvin Garrah, Blaire white, transmedicalism, mention of suicide, and details about the trans trender era of YouTube

The transmeds moment was lead primarily by Kalvin Garrah, Blaire white, and another guy I cannot remeber the name of but he has made an apology video and is making a podcast with bretman Rock talking about trans issues without the transmeds rhetoric. Kalvin and Blaire have not. All of these people are YouTubers btw. Kalvin quit YouTube and Blaire is still sucking up to her transphobic followers so I don't reccommed watching any of their content but rather watching Bretmans series! Trans med is the ideology that's based on the idea of strict rules to be trans. Some of the common ones are, "you need dysphoria to be trans" , "You have to have dysphoria with every part of your body or then you're not actually trans (he described it in a video as 'it was either transition or kill myself, no actual trans man can have their tits out like this)", "you're a trans trender (a person pretending to be trans for attention or clout) if you're not trying to be a cis man/ woman.". All of which are dumb as fuck, and I personally believe it was an attempt to make Kalvin more secure in his identity as a man but that's obviously debatable. As you can tell it MAJORLY fucked the community. Young trans indivuals, mostly trans men, were struggling over their identity because they couldn't identify with what Kalvin and co describe as an "actual trans person". His community was attacking and going after trans people and gender non conforming indivuals for... Being not like him. And instilled a lot of internal transphobia into the trans youth. it recently died in popularity after bretman Rock made their series and after Kalvin left YouTube.

@tea: I'm so glad you asked because my response is the exact reason why I think neo pronouns and mogai in general is such a good idea :-D

Neo genders and neo pronouns are solely based on what you THINK gender is. That doesn't sound like much, but the descriptions of things like "void gender" really nail it in. Some of theses identities are based entirely on not knowing exactly what your gender is, it's quite literally the collapse and simplification of what one might see as gender! It encourages people to stop saying "I guess..." When it comes to their identity. Instead of one saying "I guess I'm a gender, because I don't feel like anything" they can go "it's like smoke" or some other descriptor. Not only that but I feel like it helps people solidify their identity, especially because many trans individuals are mentally ill and/or nuerodivergent. A lot of times something so abstract as gender is better understood in pictures, colors, hell- even flavors. This way of identifying gender can cut a lot of the struggle out that could hold those groups back.

Let's be honest, the mainstream trans community is lowkey super toxic- especially in the way people like to prescribe genders and sexualitys so immediately. How way too many trans people (mostly trans masc from what I've experienced) want so badly to be accepted into common gender roles that they cut a huge portion of the community off. Especially during the infuriatingly huge trans med movement. So being apart of, or even supporting a community that's nearly closed off from the mainstream is very pleasant. You can't exactly be trans med if you describe your gender as "an unstable black hole".

-tea