Why do people hate on Zadr (zim x dib) and call it proship and than go on to say zagr (zim x gaz) is fine?

adhdemon 6/11/2025 01:51 pm 476

like, I can’t look at a Zadr post without an age of w*r in the comments, calling it proship (even though most people A. Make them the same age or B. Age them both up) but there’s never the same treatment towards zagr, which keep in mind, using the “zim is 160 and dib is 12 so it’s proship” argument, zagr would be even worse? (Usually they age them up or down as well, but people act that didn’t happen on Zadr posts, and still hate on it even if they make dib irken or something) and the people even go to tell people to “off” themself because of Zadr, or hate on it- it doesn’t make sense, and yes, jhonen did say that he would have added zagr to the show if it had more time, that still doesn’t make sense as to why there’s such a double standard.. like there are other ships (that are not proship) that the creators of shows don’t like, but they never get as much hate still? Why is there such a dual standard of Zadr being proship while zagr is not? Please tell me- 513b39525823e_crying.gif513b39525823e_crying.gif


(also sorry if I put tagr on any of this, it was an accident, I would be talking about zagr my phone just auto corrects it to tagr as that’s what I usually look at

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Jun 12, 2025 10:43 am

@MurdocsLostSock: he actually doesn’t have a canon age, people just say he is 160 (he was stated to be once) his age is different in every iteration, he was stated to be 12 in the show bible. I was just pointing out how i noticed a double standard between the ships

Jun 12, 2025 10:14 am

I always liked Zadr, I wasn't aware Zim was 160...I thought he didn't have an exact age cause he's an alien? Or like, he could change his age?shrug

Jun 12, 2025 9:21 am

I hat having to do this (twice especially) but I need to boost this again- I’m really looking for answers and ship names are banned on the invader zim Reddit server

Jun 11, 2025 6:49 pm

I think as long as the characters are portrayed as both adults in stuff like fanart, then it’s fine. Sure irl that kind of stuff is weird to some people, but it’s not uncommon in the slightest; plenty of people are in relationships with a large age gap, despite it not being the norm. (Plus the creator is so back and forth on this all the time without an actual confirmed answer on things like Zim’s age, people on the side against Zadr even argue with each other on his age)

As long as the characters aren’t portrayed as one being a child and the other an adult in a romantic/s3xual relationship, it should be fine. That does mean stuff with Zim and Dib both portrayed as children isn’t exactly good though, because Zim is known to be a lot older, but not with an exact age, while Dib is still a child. So as long as Dib is at least of legal age, I think it should be okay.

Also sorry for yapping but I’ve had the same conflict before so I’ve thought about it myself too. kao sick

Jun 11, 2025 6:38 pm

im concerned why there's shipping in this fandom the only ship i like is

da rocket ship

newm

Jun 11, 2025 6:32 pm

I've never heard anyone do this..... like this definitely isn't a common statement. nobody actually thinks that one is okay and the e other isn't. personally I don't like any of it, but that's a different argument.

Jun 11, 2025 6:24 pm

@Em0_kid: cool big grin zagr isn’t personally my cup of tea but it’s great that you like it! happyhappy

Jun 11, 2025 3:41 pm

idk, both seem pretty bad ships (especially gaz since she hates everyone lol) but maybe im biased bc zim gives such strong aroace vibes

Jun 11, 2025 3:35 pm

zagr I like better. but ik right its pure w4rscared

Jun 11, 2025 3:04 pm

wait people actually ship zagr?? that's a thing???

also you are right that's kinda stupid if dib is aged up. Idk how well the age thing applies anyways, isn't zim like mentally supposed to be a teen/preteen anyways?

btw im not proship at all im js saying